# Sculpting The Web: Interview with Jan Robert Leegte by Waiting To Be Signed Source: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/waitingtobesigned/episodes/Sculpting-The-Web-Interview-with-Jan-Robert-Leegte-e2fg9h4 ## Summary The page lists episodes of the Waiting To Be Signed podcast, but its text includes no description of the titled Jan Robert Leegte interview. It describes three other episodes: artist CCDDBB (Claudio Dalla Bernardina) recounting his path from learning BASIC to making Tezos NFTs and fx(hash) generative works, fx(hash) team members Ciphrd and Cosimo discussing the $fxh token and "Open Form" projects, and a posthumous episode with generative artist Zancan, who began coding at age eight and created Grass.js. ## Article Sculpting The Web: Interview with Jan Robert Leegte Waiting To Be SignedFeb 08, 2024 00:00 01:06:02 Jun 09, 202658:38 May 21, 202657:53 Apr 28, 202601:00:54 Following The Line - Interview with CCDDBB (Claudio Dalla Bernardina) In this interview episode of Waiting to Be Signed, artist CCDDBB (Claudio Dalla Bernardina) recounts growing up in a small village in Italy, learning BASIC on a VIC-20 and later HTML/JavaScript, studying fine arts/media design in Milan, doing 3D work and photography, producing documentaries, then moving to Thailand to manage a restaurant. He describes how COVID shutdowns and his long involvement with crypto led him to Tezos NFTs, early activity on Hic Et Nunc, and then fx(hash), where he learned generative techniques through community peers. He discusses his evolving approach using “profiles” for meaningful rarity and his ongoing “Plotable Mess” series. Follow Claudio on Twitter @CCDDBB And on Instagram @CCDDBB.art Check out his websites for more information about his work as well ccddbb.vercel.app https://www.claudiodallabernardina.com/ 00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:37 Early Computers and BASIC 04:11 Internet and First Web Work 06:00 Milan Fine Arts and 3D Studio 08:00 Photography and Reportage Lessons 09:47 Documentaries and Leaving Italy 12:13 Thailand Restaurant Reset 13:39 COVID and Crypto Comeback 16:40 Discovering NFTs and Hic Et Nunc 22:42 AI Side Projects and McFly Persona 26:34 fx(hash) Beginnings and First Drop 28:29 Generative Techniques and Community 30:40 Profiles, Rarity, and Project Craft 33:07 Breaking Power Ranges 35:07 One Line Obsession 36:44 Plotter Projects Stories 42:09 Why Not fx(hash)? 45:32 Plotting Process And Tools 47:34 Curated Release Plans 50:59 Bear Market Reflections 56:25 Blockchain Pros And Cons 01:02:10 Music And 'The Wallet' 01:08:41 Final Thanks And Goodbye Thanks to Claudio for taking the time to come on the show! Episode Art: one of many great Plottable Mess outputs by Claudio Intro and Outro tracks by PixelWank Apr 03, 202601:10:15 Feb 20, 202601:04:47 Nov 24, 202501:16:49 Oct 20, 202501:18:34 Sep 25, 202551:43 Aug 21, 202501:04:30 Jul 23, 202501:23:33 Jun 13, 202501:29:29 Navigating The New $fxh Token Protocol: Interview with Ciphrd and Cosimo In this special episode of 'Waiting to Be Signed,' hosts Will & Trinity interview Ciphrd and Cosimo from the fx(hash) team to discuss the latest platform developments. They delve into the introduction of the $fxh token and its transformative potential for the generative art and NFT space. Key highlights include the evolution of the token protocol, its impacts on artists and collectors, and the innovative features of 'Open Form' projects, which allow continuous interaction with artworks. They also discuss the token's correlation with large edition artworks, its implications for the future of digital art, and how it aims to revitalize the art market amidst the ongoing bear market. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:15 Token Launch and Protocol Refinement 03:06 Open Form Art Mechanics 05:09 Evolutionary Art and Open Form 08:51 Tax and Legal Considerations 13:10 Why Base as the L2 for $fxh (and is Tezos cooked?) 19:05 $art Token Mechanics and Bonding Curves 28:52 Art and Finance Interplay 43:39 Primary Pricing, Ethereum Fee Structure, Legal Concerns 49:57 Future of Artist Tokens 54:20 FX Hash and Traditional Minting 57:20 Survival and Success of fx(hash) 01:11:00 Artist Participation and Market Dynamics 01:18:06 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsIntro & Outro music by Pixelwank May 19, 202501:24:24 May 13, 202553:45 Feb 14, 202504:36 Jan 03, 202504:46:51 Beautiful Utopias: Interview with Zancan In this posthumous episode of 'Waiting To Be Signed,' hosts Trinity & Will finally get their crack at interviewing Zancan, a pivotal figure in generative art and fx(hash). Zancan discusses his journey from a self-taught coder at age eight to becoming an engineer and eventually transitioning to a full-time artist. The episode covers his experiences with plotters, the transformative impact of blockchain and NFTs on generative art, and the development of Grass.js. Zancan reflects on his success with NFTs, the challenges of navigating the crypto art market, and the administrative tax hurdles that continue to plague him. The discussion also delves into personal growth, balancing professional and personal life, and the future of the NFT space. 01:59 Zancan's histort in art and coding 06:17 Becoming obsesses with plotters and how that led to creating generative algorithms 08:19 Finding the blockchain and fx(hash) as a means to release his work 09:42 The creation of Grass.js and the Impact of Garden, Monoliths on his career 19:45 Navigating success and challenges of crypto taxation 26:15 Struggling with feeling overwhelmed, burnout, and planning for the future 33:02 The evolution of Grass.js over time and the challenges of code optimization 39:38 The connection between digital and physical and becoming infatuated with embroidery 46:40 The freedom that comes with being uncommitted as an artist and find new opportunities to be creative 52:12 Hopes for the Future of NFTs 54:10 Gratitude and Final Thoughts Episode Art: Monoliths #000 by Zancan (sold at auction for $111,265.95, December 2021 Intro & Outro tracks by Pixelwank Oct 18, 202459:58 Sep 27, 202401:11:39 Aug 29, 202401:01:55 Aug 15, 202401:10:11 Aug 12, 202453:03 Aug 06, 202401:09:41 Jul 24, 202458:57 Jul 22, 202453:10 Jul 18, 202401:05:49 Jul 15, 202453:52 Jul 08, 202401:07:58 Jul 01, 202442:23 Jun 19, 202458:55 Jun 17, 202401:31:38 Jun 14, 202401:17:14 Jun 10, 202401:09:58 May 28, 202459:57 May 20, 202447:21 May 16, 202401:03:28 May 13, 202441:43 Apr 29, 202447:29 Apr 21, 202401:08:00 Apr 17, 202457:05 Apr 15, 202450:08 Apr 08, 202447:54 Apr 04, 202401:01:56 Apr 01, 202459:02 Mar 21, 202401:11:37 Mar 18, 202437:04 Mar 15, 202401:09:01 Mar 11, 202456:02 Mar 04, 202437:24 Feb 29, 202455:10 Feb 26, 202401:04:07 Feb 19, 202451:40