# Mac presents Kiwi News on DevNTell live stream (DeveloperDAO)

Source: https://x.com/developer_dao/status/1811785190639042672
Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/Mac-presents-Kiwi-News-on-DevNTell-live-stream-DeveloperDAO?index=0x6691561c282b1019d10e79433fde6b04b92e3673fcc838b9cc6dbe00810345d326071c03
Submitted by tim on 2024-07-12 UTC, 9 upvotes, 3 comments

DevNTell - @KiwiNewsHQ: Decentralized HackerNews focused on crypto tech, products and culture | Guests: @MacBudkowski & @timdaub | Host: @narb_s https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mrGmMoZNeNGy

## Comments

**narbeh.eth**: It was great having you both on the podcast!

**macbudkowski.eth**: Thanks for having us, it was fun! 

I was reflecting on it today, and it also striked me that podcasts like Dev n' Tell are a good forcing function to refine our narrative. 

It's hard to just sit down one day and say: "Okay, let's work on the way we present Kiwi" because the result feels not tangible enough. But if we have some podcast, essay, or keynote to prepare, this kind of work is more justified.

**narbeh.eth**: 💯💯💯

Totally agree and would love to host you both again down the line of it would interest you 😎