# Google Is the Only Search Engine That Works on Reddit Now Thanks to AI Deal

Source: https://www.404media.co/google-is-the-only-search-engine-that-works-on-reddit-now-thanks-to-ai-deal
Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/Google-Is-the-Only-Search-Engine-That-Works-on-Reddit-Now-Thanks-to-AI-Deal?index=0x66a137bdb3d28b3d213eab938bf72cc337056bfe07ec1485d714e6a899da920607a3d06a
Submitted by naomiii.eth on 2024-07-24 UTC, 3 upvotes, 3 comments

## Summary

Google is now the only search engine that can surface Reddit results, after Reddit restricted crawling by other search engines. According to the article, search engines such as Bing, DuckDuckGo, Mojeek and Qwant show no results from the last week when searching "site:reddit.com," though older results still appear. The article says the change comes after Reddit locked down its site to stop scraping for AI training data, a practice only Google can currently do under a multi-million dollar deal. Colin Hayhurst, CEO of the search engine Mojeek, said Reddit is "killing everything for search but Google."

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Google is now the only search engine that can surface results from Reddit, making one of the web’s most valuable repositories of user generated content exclusive to the internet’s already dominant search engine.

If you use Bing, DuckDuckGo, Mojeek, Qwant or any other alternative search engine that doesn’t rely on Google’s indexing and search Reddit by using “site:reddit.com,” you will not see any results from the last week. DuckDuckGo is currently turning up seven links when searching Reddit, but provides no data on where the links go or why, instead only saying that “We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us.” Older results will still show up, but these search engines are no longer able to “crawl” Reddit, meaning that Google is the only search engine that will turn up results from Reddit going forward. Searching for Reddit still works on Kagi, an independent, paid search engine that buys part of its search index from Google.

The news shows how Google’s near monopoly on search is now actively hindering other companies’ ability to compete at a time when Google is facing increasing criticism over the quality of its search results. This exclusion of other search engines also comes after Reddit locked down access to its site to stop companies from scraping it for AI training data, which at the moment only Google can do as a result of a multi-million dollar deal that gives Google the right to scrape Reddit for data to train its AI products.

“They’re [Reddit] killing everything for search but Google,” Colin Hayhurst, CEO of the search engine Mojeek told me on a call.

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## Comments

**naomiii.eth**: Actually with this link you can read the whole thing: https://www.404media.co/email/4650b997-7cc3-4578-834c-7e663ed3d516/?ref=daily-stories-newsletter 

Only realized that after submitting. Pretty messed up how Google furthers its Monopoly based on community contributions to Reddit..

**macbudkowski.eth**: Since Google is practically unusable without Reddit results, it's a reasonable move (but not good for the rest of the search engines ofc). 

Wondering how much Reddit will get - first, they made a deal with OpenAI to train their models on Reddit's content, and now this deal with Google. I guess this is the fate of a public company - they need to make money.

**naomiii.eth**: True for Google, it seems sensible but in terms of Reddit and eventually end-users this level of power in one company seems not that great haha