# This DAO is dark and can’t be seen onchain

Source: https://x.com/narodism/status/1822983009693261912?s=46
Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/This-DAO-is-dark-and-cant-be-seen-onchain?index=0x66baa196ed065e02c6f679c076951c98bc45da77b2d21e5a5d26638cabf8944e6f0e5893
Submitted by thatalexpalmer.eth on 2024-08-12 UTC, 16 upvotes, 6 comments

## Summary

DarkFi announces what it calls the world's first fully anonymous on-chain DAO with token-weighted voting, in which the DAO, its treasury, members, proposals and votes cannot be seen on-chain. The post argues that DAOs should be anonymous so that groups can resist authoritarian regimes, citing secret police and the risk of arrest and torture. It also criticizes the tech industry's reliance on surveillance and advertising, quoting Martin Thomson of Mozilla, and says anonymous tooling for tasks and documents is the next step.

## Article

We created the world's first and only fully anonymous on-chain DAO with token-weighted voting.

Everything about the DAO is anonymous. DAOs are meant to be political and subversive.

• The DAO cannot be seen on-chain. It's looks like random data.
• The treasury is dark. Payments to and from are unlinkable and amounts are hidden.
• Voting tokens owned by members are anon. You cannot see who is a member nor what shares they hold.
• Proposals are anon. You cannot see which DAO they belong to. Nothing is revealed. They are invisible.
• Voting on proposals does not reveal your identity. The vote and its amount is invisible.
• Any smart contract can be called such as sending funds from the treasury.
• DAO actions remain hidden. For example payments reveal nothing about the treasury, and the receiver stays anon.
Everything is dark.

In 2020 there was a story about squad wealth, democratic empowerment and the (3, 3) meme. DAOs were envisioned as the post-corporate online future for mobilization and wealth creation of communities.

This vision got stuck and eventually fizzled out.

DAOs are subversive. DAOs must be anonymous.

Imagine an authoritarian regime comes to power. They are oppressing your people. With an anon DAO, you can mobilize as a squad to resist and defend freedom.

But with a transparent DAO, the regime's secret police will arrest you. In many countries this leads to torture and execution.

More than ever we need anonymous DAOs to defend freedom.
Lets create the future internet. Lets create free society. Globalism will end. Its time we got serious.

With anonymous DAOs squads form an on-chain orgs. This org has governance rules in the contract. The DAO can raise funds for a cause. Then the funds are managed by the team.

Anon DAO members are anonymous, uncensored and sovereign.

Cryptocurrency's promise was to deliver the economic paradigm of the internet. But we're not there yet. Nobody wants to setup their company on a transparent blockchain. This makes DAOs useless.

> "We’ve reached the point where if we take further steps on privacy, that harms the advertising industry and the things that we think are useful and contribute positively to the web, but also has a whole bunch of collateral implications," says Martin Thomson, a distinguished engineer at Mozilla.

Instead we see Firefox say this. The tech industry depends on surveillance and data harvesting, manipulating people with psychology to make you addicted and click ads. It's perverse and wrong.

Instead cryptocurrency offers the path forwards. Finally tech can be political and subversive. Tech is able to flourish and be useful for people.

Anon DAOs are only the first step. Online orgs need anon tooling for tasks, documents, collab and much more. DarkFi is the only team in crypto working on this. Everyone else is captured chasing narratives and liquidity. They forgot the true power of cryptocurrency.

Expect us.

Let there be dark.

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## Comments

**tim**: They have found really big words for what ends up being a command line tool. 

**macbudkowski.eth**: I really like the idea of anon DAOs, as they could be very useful in authoritarian countries.

I'm wondering, though, how fast governments will say that it's a tool used by terrorist organizations, and hence, we should ban crypto.

**0x4DD0...85D9**: 2chan, 4chan and ofc 8chan were fully anon and allowed nonsense like Qanon to manipulate whole country. Dark DAO a good idea, but remember, when a system is broken and completely corrupt, you can't fix it by finding useful ideas for the broken parts. Someone comes along and puts forward an super degen idea and action that is higher than your degenerate self, and you find yourself at a loss.

**thatalexpalmer.eth**: All good points.

**thebunnyaccount.eth**: based dark DAO poasters

**simplifiedprivacy.eth**: dirtynode, you're saying nonsense bro. qanon is random kids with no power. it's the fed, world bank, and CIA that manipulate