# First they came for telegram, and i did not speak out— because i used signal. Source: https://x.com/bantg/status/1827464334370394326 Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/First-they-came-for-telegram-and-i-did-not-speak-out-because-i-used-signal?index=0x66cb093b30464d0003e113a353bfb75cf0c4a031af9fd919ba28d828d07405fb0e2ccf6f Submitted by 0x1E92...C2d4 on 2024-08-25 UTC, 9 upvotes, 5 comments ## Summary A verse modeled on the "First they came" pattern argues that staying silent about each lost communication tool leaves people with no way to speak out at all. Each stanza names a technology that is taken, from Telegram and Signal to HTTPS, DNS, IPv4, TCP, and physical infrastructure, and each time the speaker's excuse is a substitute such as email, plain HTTP, IPv6, UDP, or mesh networks. The final stanza says that once electricity is taken, there is no internet left and no way to speak out. ## Article first they came for telegram, and i did not speak out— because i used signal. then they came for signal, and i did not speak out— because i used email. then they came for https, and i did not speak out— because i thought http was enough. then they came for dns, and i did not speak out— because i memorized ip addresses. then they came for ipv4, and i did not speak out— because ipv6 was the future. then they came for tcp, and i did not speak out— because udp still worked. then they came for the physical infrastructure, and i did not speak out— because i thought mesh networks would save us. then they came for electricity, and there was no internet left— and no way to speak out at all. ## Comments **tim**: How do we speak out against Durov‘s arrest? As of now we don‘t even know what he was arrested for. Yes, the charges are terrorism and whatever. Is he arrested for not moderating TG, like Pertsev failed to moderate Tornado Cash? What‘s going on? **sileo.eth**: Lack of moderation is indeed one of the reasons : > Durov, who has dual French and United Arab Emirates citizenship, was arrested as part of a preliminary police investigation into allegedly allowing a wide range of crimes due to a lack of moderators on Telegram and a lack of cooperation with police, a third French police source said. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/telegram-messaging-app-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-france-tf1-tv-says-2024-08-24 **pfedprog.eth**: well, if he is a citizen of France it is quite logical to arrest him for the reasons above **simplifiedprivacy.eth**: Far quest is a Layer 2 farcaster. Does this mean people on the Layer 1 can't see posts? **@scirock**: this x post has perhaps fallen for slippery slop fallacy. I can see more relations to the piratebay and mega upload arrests