# Vitalik only to publicly mention L2s that are stage 1+, starting 2025

Source: https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1834061075970683367
Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/Vitalik-only-to-publicly-mention-L2s-that-are-stage-1-starting-2025?index=0x66e25726288dcdcdb919c6ac0d9064a64148f5b4e3739ba078abf4d5ccb54b686433426e
Submitted by casslin.eth on 2024-09-12 UTC, 7 upvotes, 0 comments

## Summary

Vitalik Buterin says that starting next year he plans to publicly mention in blogs and talks only layer-2 (L2) rollups that are stage 1 or higher, with a possible short grace period for new projects he finds genuinely interesting. He says this applies regardless of whether he has invested in a project or is friends with its team. He notes that multiple ZK-rollup teams have told him they are on track to reach stage 1 by year end. He describes stage 1 as requiring a 75% council threshold to override the proof system, with at least 26% of council members outside the rollup team, and calls it a reasonable moderate milestone while stating that training wheels should not be removed until the proof systems are confident to be secure.

## Article

I take this seriously. Starting next year, I plan to only publicly mention (in blogs, talks, etc) L2s that are stage 1+, with *maybe a short grace period* for new genuinely interesting projects.

It doesn't matter if I invested, or if you're my friend; stage 1 or bust.

Multiple ZK-rollup teams have told me they're on track to be stage 1 by year end. I'm excited to see that happen!

Of course we should not throw away training wheels become we're actually confident that the proof systems are secure; that would be irresponsible. But stage 1 (75% threshold on council to override the proof system, 26%+ of council must be outside the rollup team) is a very reasonable moderate milestone. The multisigs I'm in have not had a single liveness failure in years, let alone 26%.

The era of rollups being glorified multisigs is coming to an end. The era of cryptographic trust is upon us.