# Daily discussion thread 2025-02-07

Source: https://hackmd.io/QaMCfYaBQqSnwIAOgCDXDA?date=2025-02-07

## Comments

**timdaub.eth**: gm

Vitalik tweeted a strong statement yesterday: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/No-I-do-not-feel-good-at-all-hearing-these-things?index=0x67a52f6afdca15eabc48dc812233a576a4a5815a1904359eb3ac84c6948b8559c6edcc7f

> Do I feel good when I hear people from crypto twitter and VC firms telling me that PvP KOL degen casino that's money-losing for >99% of its own users is the best product market fit that crypto is going to get, and it's "condescending and elitist" to wish for something better?

> Or when people with no understanding of the ethereum foundation internals tell me exactly whom I should rip out of the organization and whom I should throw in, and on top of that expect it all to get done within 2 weeks?

> No, I do not feel good at all hearing these things. There are even times when they make me feel emotional desire to quit. But each time that happens, I always see a sign from the world, something that reminds me that we are fighting for something valuable, that is worth fighting for.

This is a really important leadership tweet. It limits the infighting and it clarifies some of the conflict:

- He‘s in charge of EF transition. We have to be patient
- Memecoins are not the final application of Ethereum
- People need to shut the fuck up about things they don‘t know about
- Vitalik and EF people also have feelings and we cannot just trample on them because price has underperformed

He actually also says that he‘s not solely responsible for nurturing the Ethereum visions, which is very fair too.

Not gonna lie, even though I don‘t really know Vitalik, this made me feel something. 

In the last few dailys I‘ve talked about how some of the Ethereum visions have been taken from us. By imprisoning the visionaries, by canceling them, or by destroying their reputation.

I think we have to fight to revive them, and we have to understand how to develop the right anti bodies

1. Financial privacy: The dev is not the baddie. The baddie is the baddie

2. Soulbound tokens: We‘re not building a Chinese social credit system. China is doing that, not us. We have much better intentions.

3. Network states: We want to give people from all over the world better options to become a part of our communities. We aren‘t neo-colonialists. These are conferences, they help people on the ground to get started here. They are better than just doing conferences in the EU and US.

4. L2s and L1 scaling: Ethereum is Ethereum. L2‘s contribute to Ethereum by making it more pluralistic. We‘re working on unifying the interfaces. It‘s complicated but we‘ll get there.

5. Onchain art is beautiful and it will be here for as long as Ethereum runs




**timdaub.eth**: ***

topic change: Who here knows a full deepseek-r1 model API from a trusted provider (not a chinese company)

**macbudkowski.eth**: I think you can use Venice, IIRC they use it on their own infra

**mishaderidder.eth**: I use deepseek through Kagi Assistant. Trusted provider and actively protecting your privacy. https://kagi.com/assistant

The Kagi Assistant itself does not currently have a dedicated API. However, Kagi offers a Search API, which is currently in a "v0" beta status and invite-only. This API is part of Kagi's broader suite of tools, which includes features like the Universal Summarizer API and FastGPT API. (Answered by deepseek lol)

But anyway if you’re serious you can contact them. It’s good people. It is being built by a small passionate team user-first and privacy-focused. Vladimir Prelovac is founder and likely the one to contact. The service is paid, but you can pay with crypto.