# PMFers with Martin Koeppelmann

Source: https://youtu.be/MtVVV7X2uuU

🦉 PMFers with Martin Koeppelmann 🧠🔮

Video by Austin Griffith on YouTube

## Comments

**mishaderidder.eth**: Nice listen to Martin Köppelmann (Gnosis, Safe, CowSwap, Circles) talking about Ethereum and Gnosis history and building decentralised protocols and products.

**timdaub.eth**: Köppelmann is perfect on 1.5 to 2x

It‘s like me, I also must be enjoyed beyond 1.5x 😅