# @bantg: Judge forces OpenAI to store chats in NYTimes lawsuit over training

Source: https://x.com/bantg/status/1930508289806107022
Kiwi News: https://news.kiwistand.com/stories/bantg-Judge-forces-OpenAI-to-store-chats-in-NYTimes-lawsuit-over-training?index=0x68413caa475c5bc3db55cf15b697b54d53528b94be388060c0f1c3bb0d858e65e0170af0
Submitted by tim on 2025-06-05 UTC, 1 upvote, 0 comments

## Summary

A judge has ordered OpenAI to store all ChatGPT chats in a lawsuit brought by The New York Times. @bantg says the Times alleges that people use ChatGPT to read paywalled articles and that such chats are being deleted to hide that evidence, so readers stop subscribing. The Times also seeks destruction of any model trained on its articles. @bantg hopes the court rules that training on anything is fair use.

## Article

so i looked into the case where a judge has forced openai to store all chats. it comes from our old enemy nytimes. the newspaper goes full paranoia mide claiming that people use chatgpt to read paywalled articles, and then they hide the evidence by deleting all such chats, so nobody buys a subscription anymore. and they seek destruction of any model trained on nytimes articles. classic “why we can’t have nice things” scenario. hope it’s ruled that training on anything is fair use.