@vitalik.eth: We need better decentralized stablecoins with improved oracles

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We need better decentralized stablecoins. IMO three problems: 1. Ideally figure out an index to track that's better than USD price 2. Oracle design that's decentralized and is not capturable with a large pool of money 3. Solve the problem that staking yield is competition Tracking USD is fine short term, but imo part of the vision of nation state resilience should be independence even from that price ticker. On a 20 year timeline, well, what if it hyperinflates, even moderately? If you don't have (2), then you have to ensure cost of capture > protocol token market cap, which in turn implies protocol value extraction > discount rate, which is quite bad for users. This is a big part of why I constantly rail against financialized governance btw: it inherently has no defense/offense asymmetry, and so high levels of extraction are the only way to be stable. And, of course, it's a big part of why I refuse to give up on DAOs entirely. If you don't have (3), then again you have a few percent APY suboptimal return rates, which is quite bad. The possible paths to solving (3) [treat this as enumeration of the solution space, not endorsement] are basically: (i) reduce staking yield to like 0.2%, basically hobbyist level (ii) create a new category of staking which has yield almost as high as regular staking, but which does not have the same slashing risk (iii) figure out how to make slashable staking compatible with usability as collateral (does it mean that slashing risk somehow passes on to stablecoin and CDP holders, so both of those need to stake and trust the same delegate?) If you're going to try to reason through this in detail, remember that the "slashing risk" to guard against is *both* self-contradiction, *and* being on the wrong side of an inactivity leak, ie. engaging in a 51% censorship attack. In general, we think too much about the former and not enough about the latter. Also remember that a stablecoin cannot be secured with a fixed amount of ETH collateral; in the event of large drops you need to be able to handle rebalancing (though of course you could choose to partially drop this goal in a clever way, eg. if ETH price moves too much you stop earning staking yield until you take some other action) https://x.com/lex_node/status/2009956304…

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@vitalik.eth: We need better decentralized stablecoins with improved oracles

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Vitalik Buterin argues that better decentralized stablecoins need three things: a tracking index better than the USD price, an oracle design that a large pool of money cannot capture, and a solution to staking yield competing with collateral use. He says tracking USD is acceptable short term, but over a 20-year timeline, even moderate hyperinflation could make price independence from USD important. Without decentralized oracles, he writes that cost of capture must exceed protocol token market cap, which implies value extraction above the discount rate and is bad for users. He also lists three paths for the staking problem: lowering staking yield to about 0.2%, creating a higher-yield staking category without the same slashing risk, or making slashable staking usable as collateral.

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